Post by @MaddieM4@raphus.social

2026-11-01 19:59 UTC

The term "Nazi Bar" has been so relevant, and used so often, that it's starting to reach a point of semantic satiation, and bad actors are preying on that to say "but surely you don't mean this uwu smol bean first time contributor assisted by Claude is a Nazi?" When the point of the parable is that many social environments have mutual exclusion problems between two factions: 1. The people contributing to a friendly and open commons for as many people as possible, and 2. The people who want to pillage and/or gatekeep that commons. And you need to be able to identify the second category and make them unwelcome, as your only exception to friendly open access. Whereas so many open source projects seem to take the stance: "we are rebranding the restaurant to be a pork BBQ and every single product will need to contain pork. Our longtime vegan customers are welcome to continue participating as long as they don't cause drama." That is picking a side, and doing it badly.

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@redsakana@infosec.exchange 2026-11-02 12:41

@MaddieM4@raphus.social The BBQ metaphor is also apt in another sense that I have seen multiple times also outside FOSS: whether or not a space (Slack, meeting, office) immediately turns into an obvious Nazi bar, it will absolutely turn into a non-stop BBQ enthusiast meetup. After the first BBQ meister dudebros (LLM enthusiasts) find each other, _every_ discussion _all the time_ will be about grills (models and agents). Not even taste or meals or parties, but grill reviews, grill industry rumors, grilling accessories, anecdotes about that funny thing my grill did today, fights about the best grill and so on. Actually doing anything with the grill is secondary and beside the point, because the only thing that matters is the grill itself. Vegan viewpoints not welcome, obviously.

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@MaddieM4@raphus.social 2026-11-01 20:20

"Alright, /u/shalom and /u/trans-n-proud, we're going to have to take moderation action against you for stirring up drama and throwing accusations around. We try to have a space where people of ALL beliefs can get along, even if they disagree. I really wish you'd take some lessons on how to behave from /u/jewkiller1488, who has always followed our Code of Conduct on our own platforms." - Median FOSS Community Manager* *Multiple details fictionalized to be legally distinct from KDE banning sweetluna

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