@MaddieM4@raphus.social The BBQ metaphor is also apt in another sense that I have seen multiple times also outside FOSS: whether or not a space (Slack, meeting, office) immediately turns into an obvious Nazi bar, it will absolutely turn into a non-stop BBQ enthusiast meetup. After the first BBQ meister dudebros (LLM enthusiasts) find each other, _every_ discussion _all the time_ will be about grills (models and agents). Not even taste or meals or parties, but grill reviews, grill industry rumors, grilling accessories, anecdotes about that funny thing my grill did today, fights about the best grill and so on. Actually doing anything with the grill is secondary and beside the point, because the only thing that matters is the grill itself. Vegan viewpoints not welcome, obviously.