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2026-04-17 19:24 UTC

@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @joe@f.duriansoftware.com Security is one factor. OpenBSD prides itself on it, but I wouldn't say it's particularly ahead of Linux overall in a practical, well-configured scenario. NetBSD is considerably less audited, and a C3 talk about BSD security was... scathing on it. Software availability is another. Spent a non-trivial amount of time getting Minecraft to run on NetBSD. In general, more things will break, and there will be fewer documented fixes - unless you only use FOSS, and even then. I recall OpenBSD having some performance issues at the time when running IntelliJ, which I think were fixable with enough tuning but I never got that far. But I welcome trying it - it was certainly a valuable and fun experience until I realized more things work out of the box on Linux.

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  • @asie@mk.asie.pl 2026-04-17 19:31

    @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @joe@f.duriansoftware.com If you're trying to get away from LLMs... While OpenBSD itself does not accept AI code, some projects which are developed as part of it (in particular tmux) appear to care less: https://github.com/tmux/tmux/commit/1c7e164c22a3cb21d1e281087cd4aaa489d72b84 - see their stance here: https://github.com/tmux/tmux/wiki/Contributing NetBSD has held an anti-AI stance for the longest of all projects I'm aware of, but I think they will similarly run into the issue of key upstream projects adopting it. I mean, anything shipping, say, amdgpu will run into that problem. If you really want to go down this path, MirBSD is the only one I've seen openly calling LLMs "fashtech", as opposed to arguments rooted in copyright. But that's extremely niche, probably more so than even Haiku.

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  • @joe@f.duriansoftware.com 2026-04-17 19:36

    @asie @nina_kali_nina i will say that OpenBSD's userland is probably the nicest and most-integrated-feeling i've ever seen in a Unix-like system. i was able to get an openbsd box set up as a switching router with firewall, dhcp, local dns, and the ipv6 address resolution thing, along with some vmm linux containers, without anything beyond the base system. but yeah, the hardware support is limited, and it needed tuning to keep up with my 10gb uplink and still couldn't match linux out-of-the-box

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