@PeterLudemann@mathstodon.xyz Where did I say it was the first time? It's probably the 1000th time. I was just particularly irritated by this one. I've been devising techniques to break through to humans on these things since I was a teenager. Probably earlier. Somewhere I have audio recordings of parody skits I did on this topic long, long ago. Remember, I was affiliated with the legendary/notorious ZZZZZZ!