@King_Noticer@poa.st This hypothetical is considerable and all up until you consider the type of monstergirl a lamia is and what the snake body is representing. :cirno_freeman: A lamia or snakegirl is technically closest to a taur class of monstergirl, and the snake part is usually very long. This means that large portions of the tail are actually representing a major part of the snake's body (representing being the operating word, I don't want to discuss biology or trying to apply real anatomy to monstergirls). Anyways this means that getting wrapped around is like being hugged by a second body, not grabbed by some feet. The alternative would mean that we have to consider the entire bottom half of a centaur one large foot, which is just asking for trouble. There's another angle to this though in the human body. So for the part of the human body the tail is replacing, you'd have to consider the entire tail both legs and feet which means that there needs to be a cutoff point for where the feet start. This cutoff point would have to be the last few percent of the tail, not the whole thing. Sure, there's a wider range on where the feet could be with such a large tail, but on average this'd be closer to a leg-lock or being squished by thighs rather than feet. This discussion has been utterly pointless and I'm not sure why I felt the need to jump in. :thonk: