@artemis@dice.camp Best way I've seen it framed is (and I paraphrase): People who say things like "if you don't respect me, I will not respect you" do some verbal sleight of hand where they mean two different things by "respect" in the same sentence. That deliberately obscures the reality that their words should be understood as "if you don't treat me as an authority, I will not treat you like a person". Because both are ways "respect" can be understood. But it creates the illusion that they just demand reciprocity. It's misleading but crucially, it is deliberately so. It's a feature, not a bug.