2026-04-05 11:22 UTC
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@marijn@mastodon.social 2026-04-05 12:30
@torgo Don't ascribe it agency. It's not on any side, it's spitting out what it's asked to spit out. And the fascists are, unsurprisingly, the group most enthusiastic about the idea of automated lie machines.
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@Lily_and_frog@mastodon.art 2026-04-05 12:52
@torgo Tells us much about those who think AI is great.
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@isaackuo@spacey.space 2026-04-05 12:52
@torgo Quintessentially, it's because it is against the side of truth, and truth has a well known anti-fascist bias. Perhaps the most important consequence of this is that the people developing and owning big money scam AI garbage tend to be anti-truth, and thus tend to NOT be anti-fascist. And thus, tend to be fascist themselves. Not that there are lots of billionaire techbros that aren't fascist garbage already.
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@troglobit@fosstodon.org 2026-04-05 13:09
@torgo is not great, obviously. But allow me to point out an obvious little thing here – just about any technology can be used for evil. This has been a fact since the invention of fire, or the wheel.
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@mensrea@freeradical.zone 2026-04-05 13:46
@torgo but don't you know, that's what's so great about it. when your project is to destroy democracy having a tool to 10x the fash is really handy
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@crazyeddie@mastodon.social 2026-04-05 13:57
@torgo Two symptoms of lazy thinking? Fascism, and having AI do everything for you being two things lazy thinkers tend toward.
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@aredridel@kolektiva.social 2026-04-05 14:22
@torgo This is a great question to take seriously and actually try to answer.
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@dsp@nullptr.rehab 2026-04-05 14:31
@torgo because you are cherry picking. There is plenty of positive impact like https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-025-04176-7 and lots of others. As with every technology there will be horrible use and we have to go and fix that as providers and as policies. Generalization here doesn’t help.
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@dpetravick@mastodon.social 2026-04-05 15:05
@torgo I e used a couple of AI engines, it’s useful but they all spend time re enforcing what ever you asked as “great”. I find it a smarmy.
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@capeta@ursal.zone 2026-04-05 15:30
@torgo that's a bit like asking "Why US propaganda is so pro-US" 😅
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@NSalwen@mstdn.social 2026-04-05 15:31
@torgo Because billionaires are fascist.
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@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange 2026-04-05 16:08
@torgo :1000:
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@stux@mstdn.social 2026-04-05 16:17
@torgo I think because it's creators are also
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@Eetschrijver@mastodon.social 2026-04-05 16:32
@torgo This is, in fact, what the billionaires making money out of it find great about it.
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@js@mastodon.nl 2026-04-05 16:41
@torgo Who’s supplying the tokens, tuning the prompts, picking from the heap of random noise produced?
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@jayalane@mastodon.online 2026-04-05 16:47
@torgo because, like in 1930s Germany, the “industrialists” think they can control fascism and are funding it to get economic policies that disempower the working folks. So 5ey buy a lot of disinformation to help the cause.
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@Fxiz@mastodon.social 2026-04-05 17:18
@torgo bunch of 'gods' here on social media deciding what is good and what is wrong Sitting at home, having a sip of coffee, seeing some company's ceo on tv, who might have worked day and night to reach there, these 'gods' go: "hmm, I don't like it. Why are they ceo? Why are they earning more than me? I don't like it" or "why is this guy using machines in his company? It's 'his' company but I say he employee humans, so he should! I don't like it" That's your comment area, in summary
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@abhayakara@mastodon.nl 2026-04-05 17:31
@torgo One unfortunate observation is that enough people are deciding what to think based on conversations with LLMs that the answer to this question is extremely important. A second is that it's often the people who are not fascists who also don't want their work used to train the models. This is exploitable, and it's being exploited. So this question should be seen as a call to action more than a refutation of the value of AI, true though that second interpretation may be.
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@brandonscript@appdot.net 2026-04-05 18:07
@torgo because we let fascists use it? @lisamelton
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@otfrom@functional.cafe 2026-04-05 20:58
@torgo form follows funding (so, the owners)