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@hosford42@techhub.social

2026-03-07 18:44 UTC

@CppGuy I still think that's working against the public good. If the models being trained on this data are used for accessibility by the blind community, and we are intentionally working to lower their accuracy, we are hurting the blind community. We should fight the AI vendors on a front where there aren't innocent bystanders who will be hit. @dilmandila @ChristineMalec @ClimateJenny

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  • @hosford42 @CppGuy @dilmandila @ChristineMalec @ClimateJenny I wish there was a way to poison it for some models and not for others. I'm all for alt text generators if they're trained on less data than the typical LLM and are used explicitly for the purposes of accessibility. Unfortunately, the alt is almost definitely also being scraped by LLMs and image generators. But the way to solve that problem is absolutely not to neglect those who depend on alt text, increasing the need for generators

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  • @Aaidanbird@disabled.social 2026-03-07 19:07

    @hosford42 @CppGuy @dilmandila @ChristineMalec @ClimateJenny You've hit the nail on the head here. When we fight big tech, which we should, we shouldn't be fighting to destroy accessibility. like you said, it hurts innocent bystanders. People often don't realize what IS accessibility, and so I wrote a zine to break it down and try to teach folks, so they don't do harmful stuff like poisoning datasets used specifically for improving accessibility. https://reshapingreality.org/2025/06/17/accessibility-zine-completed-and-ready-for-download/

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  • @ljwrites@writeout.ink 2026-03-08 02:08

    @hosford42 @dilmandila @ChristineMalec @ClimateJenny I think calling image poisoning harmful to accessibility is a bridge too far, though. Should artists hand over their online art for free to tech companies for the sake of accessibility? Surely there's a way to aid accessibility without giving everything to scrapers indiscriminately. (For clarity I'm not defending alt text tampering, which I agree is a jerk move.)

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