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2026-11-06 22:13 UTC
That’s agnosticism.
There is an element of agnosticism involved, but they are separate. Atheist simply means that one does not believe in any gods. Agnosticism/Gnosticism would be a statement about certainty any god(s) existing or not existing. One could be a theist and agnostic.
Without actual evidence, I don’t believe anyone go claims to be gnostic regardless of whether they are theist or atheist.
But you also positively assert all known God’s don’t exist?
I positively assert that I do not believe in any of the thousands of possible gods that have been proposed as none of them have compelling evidence.
I further assert that I’m not that different from the vast majority of theists (those who believe in one or more gods). The theist has some set of gods that they believe exist and that all of the other possibilities do not exist. I just take a step further and don’t believe their god(s) exist, either.
So you believe that any potential deity is fundamentally unknowable by humans?
No. I don’t try to make any kind of super-natural claims. I only state that I have seen no compelling evidence that any gods exist and therefore I do not believe in them. Could a god exist, including with unknown evidence, that hasn’t been discovered? Sure… science makes new discoveries all of the time. My expectation, even then, is that it will simply be something sufficiently advanced and/or obscure that we just don’t recognize it. I would remain very skeptical of any attempts to describe it as super-natural.
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Agnosticism/Gnosticism would be a statement about certainty any god(s) existing or not existing. One could be a theist and agnostic.
Gnosticism is a collection of belief systems that asset the God known to mankind is not the true creator diety, but something else, whether an imposter, a deluded higher being, etc. But that’s a whole other thing
In my mind love and hate aren’t opposites, the opposite of both is disinterest. The opposite of belief isn’t rejection of belief, it’s indifference
From my perspective, you’ve just described a system of beliefs to me. You said you do not accept the belief systems you’ve learned of, but you do have beliefs about the nature of any potential deity
So do you understand why I would group your set of beliefs on divinity in the same category as other sets of beliefs on the subject?
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