@justine If looking for an OOB NetBSD ThinkPad experience with external monitor support, look for a machine with Intel UHD 620 without any AMD/NVIDIA - eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad_T_series - "U" CPUs for battery life, "H" CPUs (generally only in 15" models) for speed If you (or anyone) want to *work* on NetBSD external monitor support for Iris Xe, Radeon 7 or anything else in a more recent ThinkPad then I'd love to PayPal you a significant amount of ${beverageOfChoice} :-p