@Thickasabrick @Godcast There are three major camps in Lutheranism right now. -liberal "Lutheranism" (doesn't hold to any historic doctrine, they just took over the churches). -"Confessional Lutheranism" (tries to hold on to historic doctrine, but often bends to the will of the world) -Pietistic Lutheranism (tries to MEAN it when they hold to Lutheran doctrine and practice, but strays into weird territory if they aren't grounded in the Confessions). The VLP is in the Pietist tradition of Lutheranism, which has a pretty good track record of avoiding piss-earth influence. But nonetheless, it's a minor presence. We're working to change that with the house church network. Thankfully it is slowly and steadily growing.